Monday, May 17, 2010

Shades of Jane Reilly: Village Council Trims BOE Budget by $100K ?


Village Council members approved a BOE recommended $100K cut in the voter defeated school budget during a special public meeting on Monday night.

The $100K cut will be made in contracted for transportation services
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Shades of Jane Reilly?

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96 comments:

Anonymous said...

Are you f&#!ing kidding???

Anonymous said...

remind me not to vote on the budget next time - did anyone see the bergen record yesterday - median salary for ridgewood one of the highest - $75K and that's only for 10 months.

Anonymous said...

lets see who the BOE gives a job to now

Anonymous said...

Funny how the BOE has no problem spending $48m from the bond referendum that passed by 50 votes, but doesn't want anything cut when the school budget is rejected.

Where is the logic?

Recall the VC. They have no balls cutting only a token $100k.

The voters have been ignored.

We will remember this.

-Thed.

Anonymous said...

9:29 You've got it backwards. This is our village and if we would just get out there and get informed and participate in the process and VOTE, we would be in a stronger position. Right now, so few of us do that.

Start with getting all the right questions to candidates, whether it be VC or BOE and vote intelligently and do everything you can to get your friends and neighbors to do the same.

Attend these public meetings and put your points out there for all to see.

NEVER miss an opportunity to help decide who will be on our VC and BOE.

NEVER miss an opportunity to put your 2 cents in.

Anonymous said...

NJEA wins another !

Anonymous said...

This is exactly what Christie is fighting against. The voters speak and the BOE and town counsel ignore the people. This only gives the governor more reasons to cap at 2.5 % . He said it, the BOE is incapable of going against the NJEA, way to go Ridgewood you just made a perfect case for the governor. Go Christie!!

Anonymous said...

I am seeing red - Are the people in Ridgewood so out of touch with the economy - look at the CBD - and now we have the jewelry store hanging on by bare threads - so we'll have artificial turf, overpaid teachers, and empty store fronts. if you can't afford to shop downtown, you can't afford to support the boe and its exhorbitant budget. Get real, get a conscience, and do not pass another bond issue, debt, spend, debt, spend...i am sick of it

Anonymous said...

so pfund or mancuso is getting a job from the BOE?

Anonymous said...

I'll be voting for Christie for a second term - we need someone with a conscience - apparently Fishbein, our esteemed administrators and overpaid teachers have none - - how do they sleep at night knowing that some of us now have to choose between a decent meal and taxes.

Anonymous said...

How can we fire the Superintendent?

How do we fire the scumbags at the BOE that have not a clue how to manage a budget?

We need somebody in there that will look out for our interests.

Thed for Council.

-Thed.

Anonymous said...

time for a citizen group to take back the spending ... time for the VC to start reporting on their meetings...write to your council members asking for a listserv for to keep interested taxpayers on top of what is going on at the meeings like you can do for the BOE....tell your friends that do not have students in the school system that they can sign up for the BOE listserv....this is outrageous that our VC can handle this out of control spending by taking $100,000 out of the budget after the voters voted down the budget and feel they have done their job?? They are representing who???

Anonymous said...

i say we get rid of fishbein and pfund - both totally ineffective and incompetent aren't we paying their salaries and they don't admit we've spoken?

Anonymous said...

Voters will remember this if and when Mr. Aronsohn, Ms. Zusy, and Mr. Killion ever run for office again.

Anonymous said...

can we impeach fishbein? i guess he considers ridgewood a bargain - after all doesn't he have like 4 or 5 kids - and i think they run track...hummm??? little self serving bond issue wasn't it???? fire him

Anonymous said...

the pity is everyone will roll over and play dead - next year's budget will pass again either directly or indirectly

Anonymous said...

The VC studied the BOE budget, as was their job to do, and recognized that it was efficient and responsible. Anyone who attended the BOE budget meetings or otherwise bothered to learn about Ridgewood expenditures relative to other school districts in this state, recognizes this. The bottom line is our property taxes are being held hostage by out of control state spending. We no longer receive any general school aid, despite the considerable revenue our village citizens send to the state in income taxes each year. Christie has drawn a line in the sand, forcing school districts and communities statewide to make tough cuts. Don't blame the teachers or the BOE -- if you want property tax relief then support efforts to bring down state expenditures and support economic growth.

Anonymous said...

and if we received school aid, we would not have any tax increase? get real, the bottom line is that if you tell a kid they can spend x dollars or y dollars in toys r us, they will spend to the hilt and whine for more, yes i will blame the teachers and the boe of which you are obviously one of

Anonymous said...

For years Councilman Pat Mancuso has complained privately about the out of control spending by BOE members.

Now, when given the chance to do something about it, he waffles.

What a spineless politician!

Anonymous said...

Councilman Paul Aronsohn's comment that the Village should consider plowing snow less frequently to save money (so additional funding could be directed to the BOE) will certainly go down on record as the most asinine comment of the year.

Anonymous said...

10:26 your comment "Ridgewood expenditures relative to other school districts in this state" is curious! Better to examine 'Ridgewood expenditures relative to other school districts of SIMILAR SIZE in this state' otherwise you would be comparing apples to oranges. If you made that comparison you would find RPS budget the most bloated.

Anonymous said...

Give it a rest 10:26. After all, you BOE members must be pretty exhausted after a full evening of raping and pillaging. The problem is a local one of overspending on unnecessary administrative items and we all know it. Go blow smoke up your own a$$.

Anonymous said...

does the public information officer position remain?

Anonymous said...

Wow 10:59, did he really say that? What a turd!

Anonymous said...

If we received state aid, I'm quite certain we'd still have a tax increase and yes, the BOE would have dipped into the Toys R Us budget a bit as they always do to pay for jobs like lunchroom aides which are now a thing of the past, and the nearly extinct librarians, and music programs. The 4% BOE budget is directly related to contractual obligations. There was no agreement by teachers to give back. Teachers are seeing 2.5% increases in the horizon. Next year the teacher's contract is up for negotiation...save it all up for then. Not BOE, just IMFORMED.

Anonymous said...

It's time to recall these idiots! How dare they disregard the "will of the people"!

Anonymous said...

10:59 get your facts right. he never said that. try again.

Anonymous said...

10:26 = Laurie Goodman

Anonymous said...

I hope that the BOE and the VC grow a spine between now and next year's teachers' contract negotiations.

Anonymous said...

Aronsohn never / never said anything about snow plowing. You might disagree with his view, but don't outright lie about what was said.

Anonymous said...

1026- christie is the best thing that has happened to the state. he is forcing it to make the tough choices it has deferred for decades.

if you are going to blame the state, blame yourself, because you probably voted in the myriad of democratic administrations that packed the state supreme court and gave us such gems as the Abbott districts, which redistribute the state's wealth to 30 needy districts (i.e. Newark to the tune of $1b per year in just that one city).

now if you are going to say there was nothing left to cut, you're out of your mind.

never once did i hear anything about reducing the bond expenditures. and i never once heard the council try to reduce the budget by the amount of teachers' raises this year (which the teachers could have given back if they truly felt threatened).

F you to the VC for having no balls.

F you to the BOE. We will remember.

I am going to run for the BOE next time around. There are enough of people like me that care about this town to support me. The current makeup of the BOE is so self-serving it's ridiculous.

-Thed.

Anonymous said...

This is insulting. All council members knew there was plenty of room to cut the BOE's budget. Instead they ignore the voters with this token $100 grand. Why cut at all? To say you did? This is disgraceful. We have administrators at Cottage Place that need to go for the sake of our district and these guys on the VC just go about life la de da, believing all the bullshit emanating from the folks who's budget is close to 90 million dollars.

Anonymous said...

What was the vote on the VC and who voted how?

Anonymous said...

1141, I agree. Even after she 'wins' a fight, she can't keep her mouth shut.

Always trying to defend the indefensible. Cowering behind 'the kids', the spendfest continues. Was any of the bod ref pared back? No. She flatly admitted that the bond ref contained 10% of just-in-case money. I wish I could do that with my employer.

Until we remove the people we blindly elected from office and replace them with good, decent and moral people, they will continue to abandon their jobs which include unpopular decisions - but necessary ones.

Anonymous said...

Let's start a recall of the sitting VC & BOE members.

Anonymous said...

just delaying all the layoffs till next year ,the lomger they wait the worse its gonna get , they screwed themselfs more than anybody ,I mean lets face it the schools are not what they used to be ,it seems there time is long past

Joseph Alvaro said...

Gentlemen,

And I use that word as a formality for your actions last night warrant less flattering descriptions of your persons.

Your token cut of $100 thousand dollars from a school budget approaching $90 million dollars was insulting to the voters of Ridgewood. You would have been far better off not cutting a penny. At least then you would have been seen as taking a stand on principal. Instead, you have made yourselves appear sycophantic.

Cordially,

Joseph Alvaro

Anonymous said...

How does one begin a recall of these incompetent council members who ignored the will of the people? This dictatorship must be stopped NOW.

Anonymous said...

Your good ole boys network hard at work.

Anonymous said...

For all you people who argue they did their job and their was nothing to cut, you're full of it. Apparently they learned they were saving money on transportation a week ago, so this nominal cut from the VC is nothing. The BOE knew they were saving money there anyway. They all lie and are so irresponsible it's disgusting. There are positions at the schools that aren't even warranted, yet principals don't cut them even though the need to save money is great. They lie because they want to keep a position in their budgets just in case. Why isn't Fishbein catching this and saying enough. Not one of them care about our dollars spent or our children.

Anonymous said...

This decision by the VC is terrific. Thankfully, our elected officials care about the quality of our school systems and the impact it has on our children and our property values.

Anonymous said...

This message is for THED (6:37):

It is hard enough to muster any enthusiasm into the BOE election, but you have put yourself in a bad position to win it by your constant misinterpretations and nasty remarks directed at the democratic party.

First, you should understand the obvious, that all democrats do not agree with every decision an elected member of their party makes any more than every republican stands behind all their elected officials.

Second, there are two sides to every story. The republican approach, historically, can be shot full of holes as easily as you put down the actions of the democrats. ITS POLITICS. The very nature of it is riddled with human error in large doses, but not by one party alone.

Your short sighted views will cost you any bid for a seat on the BOE because you have alienated too many potential voters. Even if I agree with some of the things you post that are more directly related to the issues, I would never support you because I wouldn't want your brand of playing the blame game sitting on my BOE. Those remarks are empty and unproductive and foretell what kind of board member you would be. That attitude breeds mistrust in too many of the people that might have voted for you.

Ultimately, we want someone who will be able to get in there and work with the remaining BOE members as a proponent of necessary change. It will take someone who cares more about the issues than the politics to do that and to wake up this school district and bring them to the polls.

Anonymous said...

people....please go to this link
http://php.app.com/edstaff/results2.php?county=BERGEN&district=RIDGEWOOD+VILLAGE&school=DISTRICT+OFFICE&lname=&fname=&job1=%25&Submit=Submit

this is where the VC could have found some cutting to do without any direct affect on the students

$100,000 cut when the people spoke is criminal

Anonymous said...

828 -- it is clear that the reason i'm "blaming" the democratic party in nj is due to the entrenched interest that have stacked the court.

christie is doing the right thing.

it is regrettable that you are not enraged by the lack of accountability that has been shown by the VC and the BOE.

there are enough people in this town that are fed up with this as was shown in the last couple of elections.

the expenditures the BOE is making is sickening.

-Thed., a taxpayer who has had enough.

Anonymous said...

"I am going to run for the BOE next time around. There are enough of people like me that care about this town to support me. The current makeup of the BOE is so self-serving it's ridiculous."

-Thed.

6:37 AM


Thed...earth to Thed. You have alienated so many people who "care about this town" with your political rants you could never get enough support. Your anti-Democrat slurs will cost you any chance of winning an election that requires bi-partisan support. We don't need your brand of politics on the BOE. We need a candidate who will reflect the interests of ALL of the people that "care about this town".

A few years back, candidate SUSAN KNUDSEN represented these goals, but Vallerini's slick campaigning overtook her grassroots effort. I went door to door for her and I'd do it again in a heartbeat. She represented all that we want in cutting the waste and truly representing the will of the people without all the BS political mud slinging and blame gaming that you are so partial to.

Anonymous said...

8:20 = Laurie Goodman

Cut the crap Laurie.

Anonymous said...

They really did not cut anything. 8:13 is well informed. Read the ridgewood patch.com and you will see a clear explanation (great reporting btw) of what was accomplished yesterday.

Anonymous said...

Thed, 9:45, I certainly am "enraged by the lack of accountability that has been shown by the VC and the BOE" and I am as "fed up with this" as the next person. Like you, I am "a taxpayer who has had enough". But you cannot represent me because you have shown blatant distain for me by repeatedly vilifying my political party. THE BOE IS NOT ABOUT PARTISAN POLITICS and you will find that to be your downfall should you choose to run. If you truly care about the real issues that face our school district, then actively support a candidate that can represent everyone. You are better suited to a different arena that will be more tolerant of your opinions. Try to put your enthusiasm toward a candidate that could win. If you think that is yourself, then your love of yourself outweighs your commitment to the issues.

Anonymous said...

10:05 i might not agree with LG in many issues, but one thing I admire of her is that she ALWAYS adds her name to any of her comments.

Anonymous said...

To Thed,

Apparently you are promoting yourself for Village Council:

"We need somebody in there that will look out for our interests.
Thed for Council.
-Thed.
10:09 PM"

AND promoting yourself for BOE:

"I am going to run for the BOE next time around. There are enough of people like me that care about this town to support me. The current makeup of the BOE is so self-serving it's ridiculous.
-Thed.
6:37 AM"

MY, AREN'T WE PLEASED WITH OURSELVES. Talk about "self-serving". If you really want to serve the public interests, step back and throw your support behind a candidate that we will all want to vote for. Honestly, your main interest seems to be blowing your own horn, not ours.

Anonymous said...

OMG 9:06. EVERYONE needs to visit that link:

http://php.app.com/edstaff/results2.php?county=BERGEN&district=RIDGEWOOD+VILLAGE&school=DISTRICT+OFFICE&lname=&fname=&job1=%25&Submit=Submit

Anonymous said...

828 - how you can support the democratic party in nj is beyond me.

first of all, most are beholden to the unions.

second... about 99% of the corruption cases brought over the last couple of decades were against Democrats (including, but not exclusivley, ones brought up by Christie).

third...my "political rants" as you like to call them are justified. i generally (but I admit not always) back up my arguments with facts. The BOE does not. I try to shed light on the false arguments the BOE has made in support of insane expenditures.

thanks for reading my material!

-Thed.

Anonymous said...

this link
http://php.app.com/edstaff/results2.php?county=BERGEN&district=RIDGEWOOD+VILLAGE&school=DISTRICT+OFFICE&lname=&fname=&job1=%25&Submit=Submit

gives amazing facts....too bad no one had the nerve to use the valuable information there if they had there would certainly been more than $100,000 cut in the budget

Shame on them

Anonymous said...

oh, 828, i forgot to add...

i'm sure it's really hard to win a seat on the BOE.

nobody runs for it.

i think one must be masochistic to run for that job though.

if you try to do the right thing, i'm sure you'll get ripped by all of the people that say, "...if you cut the budget you're only hurting the children..." b.s..

that's why you need somebody like me up there. i have three kids and obviously care about them and their schools but i KNOW that the BOE is wasting money. It is obvious to anybody who has a brain.

The schools/VC could have easily killed a bunch of empire-building projects and also have cut the budget that was rejected by at least $1m.

At a minimum, what i would have done if i was on the VC was to say to the BOE --- Cut $x million that reflects contractual raises that the union didn't offer up like they did in other towns.

then, maybe, the union would have come back and changed their mind knowing that the alternative would have beem more layoffs.

this kind of thing happens all of the time but our leadership does not make the tough decisions.

you can guarantee i would. i have opinions that are backed up with facts, not just fluffy statements.

-Thed.

Anonymous said...

"The VC studied the BOE budget, as was their job to do, and recognized that it was efficient and responsible. Anyone who attended the BOE budget meetings or otherwise bothered to learn about Ridgewood expenditures relative to other school districts in this state, recognizes this.10:26"
_____________

Question to Fishbein and the BOE: How many district administrators does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Answer: As many as possible at ridiculously high pay rates and a Public Information Officer to keep us updated on how they're doing.


BTW 10:26, I attended plenty of BOE meetings and did my homework. Enough to recognize the BS that you posted for what it is.

Anonymous said...

The Village Council should be ashamed of themselves. How stupid do they think we are? The $100,000was a reduction in Transportation Costs, before it was a cut.
Yes, there is benfit to the Schools, but at at terrible cost to those who live in Ridgewood after their kids are out of the system. They want to stay, but can't because of the rediculous taxes. Hense they will sell into a terrible housing market reducing all Ridgewood values. Are the schools in Ridgewood that much better than Wyckoff, HoHoKus and Glen Rock?

Anonymous said...

AND THE INFORMATION OFFICER (PART TIME) STAYS AT $46,000!

Anonymous said...

@8:20, how dare you. I am so tired of hearing about who cares and doesn't care about our kids and THAT ISN'T EVEN THE POINT. Our elected officials are elected to represent us and we voted to reduce the budget. Our property values will only be going down bc that is what happens when you have higher taxes.

Wyckoff's budget was less than half of our school budget and they managed to cut over $400,000. I find it hard to believe we are so much leaner.

Anonymous said...

So, in the last election we had 2 unopposed candidates and we vote down the budget. The council cuts less that 1% and sends it away. Why should people go to the polls?

Anonymous said...

Hey Thed,
If you really want change, give a call to Christie. He is on a town to town bus ride pushing 2.5%. Send him information on what the BOE and the town council cut and tell him to come to Ridgewood. See if Brent Shundler can do anything about this situation. Regardless of what others write,

I would vote for you.

Those out there that think the spending helps sell the town need to realize that over 130 house are for sale. This is a very high amount, and why you ask, its because of the economy and taxes. Now that our taxes will be going up 300 for the bond 300 for the BOE and 300 for the town, who the hell wants to buy into this town.

If you can't sell, then just leave.

For those out there that think this is a rant, well I'm your neighbor so get use to it. WE are over taxed.

Anonymous said...

all,

thanks for all of the support for my future BOE, council, and presidential run.

-Thed.

btw - i'm just kidding when i'm saying i'm running for office. i am not trying to pump myself up. i'm just trying to make a point that the people who we have elected aren't doing their jobs.

and, i'm sorry if you're being defensive about my comments about Democrats. i'm trying to offset some of the Christie bashing because I think he's doing a great job.

Anonymous said...

Thed,12:30,

I have seen better people than you lose BOE elections. You really are full of yourself to think that you would be so easily accepted. Although some of your ideas are right on, your partisan politics are poison to an effective position on the BOE. You have to be able to serve ALL of the people, including the Democrats that you so despise. THE BOE IS A BI-PARTISAN ENTITY AND MUST REMAIN THAT WAY IN ORDER TO SERVE ITS INTENDED PURPOSE. If you feel such a need to put yourself and your views out there, pick a more appropriate place to do it.

Apparently, according to your posts, you're planning to run for BOE and VC. I guess you think we just can't survive without you. I think we can.

Anonymous said...

1:32 To stop that from happening again. To put people we can trust in the position to make those decisions.

Anonymous said...

I am going to run for the BOE next time around.

Run Thed, run!

Run on a campaign that bashes liberals and Democrats and unions and teachers. Then let's count the votes and see how little support you have in the Village for your partisan slurs.

Anonymous said...

Thed, 4:01,

What can I say but whew!

And for the record, I am not defensive, I am put off. What valid points you make are lost as soon as you start the blame game. I realize that some people on each side do this, but that has never tempted me to join in. (Well okay, maybe tempted, but I don't do it publicly.) I have little respect for any idea that needs to put down something else to prove it's validity. I scrutinize my own party on that as much as yours. Privately, of course we're all going to do that. If we value our friendships, we'll often opt to do it only with like minded friends.

I have read many of your posts on Valley, the VC, and the BOE that I can agree with. I obviously do not agree with your politics. All I'm saying is that your points will resonate with more people if you leave out the politics. In certain cases, like the BOE issue, that would be more appropriate and productive. It's hard to appreciate your points while you're insulting me.

Anonymous said...

"...THE BOE IS NOT ABOUT PARTISAN POLITICS..."

I laughed so hard when I read this that I *almost* peed myself!


If ever there was an organization whose agenda is politically driven, it is the BOE (and the "EA"s (REA, NJEA, NEA, etc.))

Anonymous said...

526 - i'm really not a political idealogue.

believe it or not, i voted for Obama and Kerry.

i don't mean offense to you ---the issues i have are bigger than "democrat" or "republican". it just so happens that i believe that a lot, but not all, of the problems in nj happen to have occurred on dems' watch (in NJ at least at the state level).

i've come to believe that it doesn't matter what party is in power -- if they're in too long they naturally become unresponsive and complacent. nj happens to have a long history of primarily Democratic (with a big "D") rule. the party is beholden to unions.

i should hope that my union bashing would not be held against me in a town like R'wood. i personally despise them and think they hold back progress and increase costs. the "benefit" they generally provide is for the direct beneficiaries and not society as a whole.

i think this certainly holds true with the teachers' union.

don't let my general dislike of the Democratic party at this point in my life color your view of my specific arguments about ineptitude and arrogance on the BOE and the VC.

the feeling i have right now is one of futility. i don't know what else we could have done.

at least we got our candidates elected last week. i am cautiously hopeful (maybe naively) about what the future may hold.

-Thed.

Anonymous said...

5:35 it's been a slow day! I laughed out loud when i read your pee-post!

Anonymous said...

Thankfully the 2.5% will become law since the fools that run the towns cannot control their spending. Unless you have the experience of running a business, making payroll, dealing with employees, cash flow, etc you have no business spending the money of taxpayers (foolishly as has been demonstrated numerous times)

Anonymous said...

5:04 You can rant all you want, but that won't make it any bigger.

5:26 I recommend a case of Depends for your problem.

The current BOE is obviously dysfunctional, but not because of anything that can be solely equated to any one political party. The points that Thed is making about the BOE are feelings that are shared by many residents regardless of political affiliation. Why poison the cause by alienating people that share those views?

Well, who am I kidding, trying to reason with you two. To borrow an expression from one of your own (albeit a fictional one), you are a couple of "meat-heads".

Anonymous said...

So Thed, is it truce time yet? Maybe we should stick to the things we can agree on and try to get something done here.

Joe Jitsu said...

@414,

BOE is supposed to be a NON-PARTISAN body, you a$$wipe!

Run Thed, run!!

Anonymous said...

Boy 5:35 you must be hard up for a laugh. You need to get out more.

Anonymous said...

Well Thed,6:04, you really surprised me. And thank you for the explanation. You really do have some worthwhile ideas that I do agree with and I hope that you will deliver them in a way that I can appreciate more in the future. (Well I can hope, can't I.)

Have you noticed the type of followers you've attracted here? One of them has a bladder issue and another called me an "a$$wipe". (What's with all the bathroom references?)

I understand where your politics are coming from a little better now and I'm glad you took the time to explain yourself. I always try to judge the candidates for each election on their merits and whether they are the right person for the job at that time. Actually, even though I have always been a registered Democrat, the first person I voted for at the age of 18 was a Republican for the very reasons I just stated. So you see, in some ways, we are not that different.

I wish the people of this town would wake up and realize the importance of voting intelligently and staying on top of the issues that affect them and their families a little better. All we need are a couple of good candidates and a lot of voters to turn this thing around. Like you, I am cautiously hopeful. See you in cyberspace- LB, 5:26

Anonymous said...

what the hell is going on with this council.I say can you say scam,er going on.

Anonymous said...

Hey Joe Jitsu 7:12 I haven't heard that one since high school. Maybe you should have gone to college and learned a few new ones.

Anonymous said...

Oh good.

It's all OK with 11:31 now Thed, since you stated that you voted for Obama and Kerry.

Otherwise *non-partisan* 11:31 would still be butting heads with you. Kinda gives you LOTS of insight into her hypocritical closed thinking...

Well played Thed, Well played.
There may be a future for you in politics yet!

Anonymous said...

All urine-talk aside, nobody has disputed these facts...

If ever there was an organization whose agenda is politically driven, it is the BOE (and the "EA"s (REA, NJEA, NEA, etc.))

Anonymous said...

1:47 How is it that you were able to read the mind of blogger 11:31 and determine that the blogger is female? Wow! Amazing!

Guess what! It doesn't take special powers to see what your problem is. Big talk won't make it bigger.

Joe Jitsu said...

@1109

Read deeper...I was criticizing @404. The key word is 'supposed'. I know what ideology makes up our 'non-partisan' BOE & VC.

So sorry you didn't pick up on it.

Anonymous said...

3:04pm - 11:31 aka 4:04 is Laurie Goodman.

Thed is in sync with the people. Laurie is not.

Anonymous said...

(off topic here sort of) I was doing some research on an issue when i stumbled on this article. I am not a lawyer but wondered if this could apply to the bond referendum. Article refers to 3 yr old NJ law requiring 60% voter approval for added items on a school budget over 4% cap. Since the bond referendum pushes the school budget over the allowed 4% cap: could this be relevant?

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/01/morris_county_schools_budget_6.html

“The case stemmed from Denville's school election of April 21, 2009, when voters passed a $24.3 million budget by a 1,926 to 1,309 vote, or a 59.5 percent approval margin.

While only a simple majority of votes is required to pass school budgets, the new law required that spending above a 4-percent cap on budget increases must be put to voters in a separate question, which must get at least 60 percent voter approval to pass.

Denville posed such a separate, secondary budget question seeking voter approval of $240,145 above cap for extracurricular activities, a maintenance worker and a string music program, and it was rejected by a vote of 1,904 yes-ballots to 1,302 no-votes. The 59.4 percent of votes in favor of the second question fell just short of the necessary 60 percent needed for passage.

Gellene contended the 60-percent mandate has the effect of giving ‘no’ votes more weight than ‘yes’ votes on secondary ballot questions, which violates the “equal protection” constitutional tenet and flies in the face of the ‘one-person, one-vote’ concept.

“The no votes weighed heavier than the yes votes,” Gellene told the judge. “If the Legislature wants to overturn 200 years of tradition, let them go to the people and ask it, rather than sidestep the issue of what’s the proper way to finance schools.”

Deputy Attorney General Cynthia Rimol said the new law stemmed from the Legislature’s intent to try to reign in property tax increases from school spending, and argued it does not violate equal protection or voting rights.

Anonymous said...

4:05 There was no misunderstanding on my part. Anyone that uses the word a$$wipe, is an a$$wipe.

Anonymous said...

4:09, your remark is hilarious! I AM NOT LAURIE GOODMAN. In fact, I think Laurie Goodman is lying, deceitful and yet another waste of a seat on our BOE. Ironically, I have been exposing other posts on this blog site as hers. Its hard to imagine what you could even remotely attribute to her from my posts, since I have absolutely no respect for how she has conducted herself on the BOE. In fact, I have written many posts criticizing her. You must be as clueless and out of touch as she is.

Anonymous said...

537 used the term, so he/she must also be one too. Hypocrisy much?

Anonymous said...

Re: ...How is it that you were able to read the mind of blogger 11:31 and determine that the blogger is female? Wow! Amazing!...

Wow, you must be one frustrated bitch.

Weren't you taught that always using male pronouns like "he" when you do not know the gender of the individual is sexist and you should arbitrarily choose a gender and uses it consistently within a given written piece?

When writing a new piece, again, arbitrarily choose the gender of the pronouns if the gender of the subject is not know so that your writings remain non-sexist.

BTW, the use of "he/she" as a pronoun is considered too clumsy and the exclusive use of male pronouns would be sexist. (Interestingly, nothing was taught about the exclusive use of female pronouns).

Were you absent from PC indoctrination class that day?

I find it humorous that:

a) when someone actually follows the feminist dogma and does this PC crap, in order to be non-sexist, that a bra-burning feminist will play the sexist card.

b) I was accurate in using the "her" pronoun, because you have shown yourself to be a shrill bitch.

Anonymous said...

11:20 I am a married father of two children in the public school. There were no pronouns in my post. You quoted me. Where are they? I just don't like guys like you. I have my reasons. But not to worry, you may have destroyed your own point, but you proved mine just fine. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

11:20 Your references to "feminist dogma" and "bra burning" provide clear evidence of your problem...mommy issues.

Anonymous said...

"a) when someone actually follows the feminist dogma and does this PC crap, in order to be non-sexist, that a bra-burning feminist will play the sexist card.

b) I was accurate in using the "her" pronoun, because you have shown yourself to be a shrill bitch." 11:20 AM

So 11:20, are you saying that you are trying to be "non-sexist"?
NOW THAT'S FUNNY!

Anonymous said...

Hey 1:27...

The AUTHOR decides what gender pronoun to use when the gender of the subject is unknown.

I wrote the "her" referring to 11:31 (who made no indication of her gender). THAT pronoun was the one that got your panties in a knot -- which is the point that YOU made with your snarky response at 3:04 -- so it is not unreasonable for me to think that you would understand why -- when you yourself admit that YOUR post also contained no indication of YOUR gender -- it would be perfectly acceptable for me to use female pronouns to refer to you. So what is your point in saying that there were no pronouns in your post? Do you not understand the concepts being discussed here?

BTW, exactly what “points” were you making with your 3:04 post? That you are a pretentious, prissy condescending, obnoxious uptight feminist? Well, OK. I’ll give you that, you’ve proven your point, both in your 3:04 post and follow-up disjointed 1:27 response.

Also, how do YOU know my gender? You violate your own rules by referring to me as a “guy”, or do you have the Amazing! Ability to read minds and I totally mistook your 3:04 post as snarky and prissy, when you were actually just looking to see if you found a kindred soul who also has the ability to read minds?

Guys like you bring nothing to the table.

Anonymous said...

The budget was reduced by approx. one tenth of one percent. How can this be considered an honest response to a NO vote?

Anonymous said...

Other towns with smaller budgets cut more.

The voters were slapped in the face.

The f'n $100k cut wasn't even a cut at all since the BOE knew they found cost savings.

I cannot believe how stupid our VC members are. They should all quit.

And the BOE -- they should be fired. I have no idea if this is possible. Probably not.

I will say it again: THE CURRENT VILLAGE COUNCIL HAS NO BALLS TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS DEMANDED BY THE VOTERS. THANK GOD SOME OF THEM ARE LEAVING. NOW TO GET THAT BUTTBOY ARONSOHN OUT.

Anonymous said...

Votes obviously don't matter in Ridgewood. Even though the budget was voted down, it effectively has passed through this action of the VC.

Anonymous said...

8:16 Our votes don't matter enough because we all don't make them count. We need to generate more interest in the BOE and VC particularly at election time. If we ignore them all year long, apparently when we want them to listen, they will ignore us.

Anonymous said...

I would like to address this post to anyone who has an interest in the school budget issue and has been following the posts @ 4:14, 1:47, 11:20 and 4:36. This poster likes to call others by names like "asswipe", "one frustrated bitch", and "shrill bitch" while taking pot shots at the feminist movement. And why? Because irregardless of the issue at hand, he believes his target to be a female Democrat.

Of course this person has complex issues. But that isn't my concern and hopefully not yours either. My concern is in response to his post @ 1:47 where an attack is made simply because a Republican and a Democrat have come to terms, realizing that the views they have in common are more important than their political affiliations. Poster 1:47's criticism comes as the Republican explains his views and admits to have voted for Obama and the Democrat acknowledges his comments.

What the critic does not know is that this all makes perfect sense, as Obama has taken a large scale stand against the teacher's union, favoring quality in the classroom over seniority and backing a Manhattan based school reform group called New Leaders for New Schools, started by Democrat Jon Schnur. Mr. Schnur has worked with many people including Education Secretary Arne Duncan in a full scale effort that has lead to many recent reforms in education in several states. Although this movement has been hard at work over the past two decades, they have recently attained results because they finally have the backing they need from a sitting president.

Together, Duncan and Schnur have been able to work with President Obama to offer financial incentives to states that present new laws, contracts, and data systems to track individual teacher performance and have committed to basing any budget related teacher layoffs on teacher effectiveness rather than seniority alone. Fifteen states, including union strongholds like California, Ohio and Michigan have already proven their commitment to this cause in hopes of receiving federal financial incentives. The question for us is, how committed will New Jersey be?

Ignorant people like poster 1:47 are dangerous to our common cause because they seek to divide us on issues that can only be successful when we stand united. Each party can take the fall on various issues and there is no getting around the Democrats' history of ties to the unions, but the Democrat in charge is now helping other Democrats to effect changes that will break the union's stronghold on our schools. It is up to our state to step up as others have done and join this wave of reform.

The bottom line is that we should never blindly follow our political party wherever it takes us. We should be informed and use our votes wisely, which will sometimes mean voting for the other party's candidate or joining forces with the other party's members in a common cause. Whatever we do, we should brush aside fools like 1:47 who look to use this forum as a means of release of their own personal aggression rather than a forum for intelligent discussion of the facts.

Anonymous said...

The Village was talked about on News 88 this morning; they were making fun of the $100,000 cut and quoted one blogger as saying "That's how much they spend on paper clips".